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lovebeyondmeasure:

youfoundmeonascreen:

Great. Why should your life be more valuable than the life in your uterus?
Is it because it’s an inconvenience?

Ok, dear person who commented on this, this is something that most “pro-lifers” will never admit.
THERE ARE SHADES OF GREY IN THIS WORLD.
[possible trigger warning for rape]
There are so many women for whom having an abortion is a heart-wrenching, life-altering decision that, yes, will haunt them forever. For some it’s because of medical issues- having that child could KILL THEM. Or maybe the child is NOT VIABLE and the pregnancy will not end in a new life, but only in more pain and sorrow than the abortion will cause.
Some people are RAPED. They cannot handle having their rapists child, because of any number of reasons, not the least of those being the PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA of carrying the child of the person who changed their lives forever and can not and should not have this type of hold over them.
For many women, their bodies are not able to carry a fetus to term. It’s not an inconvenience, it’s POSSIBLE DEATH.
So, so many people who are pro-choice are NOT PRO-ABORTION. I AM NOT PRO-ABORTION. I do not think that anyone should ever have to have an abortion. 
But I am not going to force my fellow human beings to do something that they do not want or are not able to safely do. IF IT IS NOT YOUR BODY, IT IS NOT YOUR CHOICE.
If you’ve never thought about it before, think about it now- you do not know their stories. You do not know their pain. You are in no position to judge anyone for choosing a medical procedure that is in all probably the only means they have for saving their life or allowing them to pursue their lives to the greatest extent possible. AND IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO DENY THEM THE MEANS TO DO SO SAFELY AND WITHOUT JUDGEMENT.
Being pro-choice does not mean being pro-abortion. It is about being pro-life. EVERYONE’S life. 
Their life may not be more important than the life in their uterus to you, but to them, it probably is. And it is their choice what to do with their life. And if they should choose to have an abortion, they are the one who will live with that decision, not you.

Ah, you mistake me.
Abortion should be a legal process. I do not think an abortion is the solution to an unwanted pregnancy.
I do not think a child should be allowed to physically injure its mother. If the pregnancy has a risk of death higher than average, the couple (or the mother) should have the choice to terminate the pregnancy or to try to stick it out. If the pregnancy could cause long-term disability or sterility, it find its termination morally justifiable.
In any event, I truly believe that the abortion is monumentally saddening for those involved, and a tragedy at least equal to miscarriage and stillbirth. If the child is not viable and dies inside its mother, I think there is less anguish inherent in letting the child die and giving birth to its corpse than to kill it—and give birth to its corpse  anyway.
Rape is woolly here. The rape is a tragedy, yes. The crime committed against that woman, her agency, perhaps against her will to live, is to me the most despicable act a human can commit. Yes, worse than taking life: refusing someone the right to control themselves, particularly when your sexual  satisfaction comes at the cost of her well-being and even a child gestating in her unwanted. There are days when I have been literally catatonic with rage that rape exists. So understand that.
But the child is guiltless. Genetically bound to the criminal, certainly, but the child did not commit that rape, the child has committed no other crime. I understand that a raped woman would not want to carry this child. This is where our culture needs a sea change. You say I am ‘in no position to judge anyone for having an abortion’. You’re right. I’m not. I do not think a woman is a terrible person for having an abortion. I think she is wrong to have done so, but that does not affect how I see her. I disapprove of the smoking of marijuana, too, but that doesn’t mean I fault people I meet who smoke marijuana. I think that issue of judgement is key. Our culture needs first to stop treating rape as a thing that happens and start truly discouraging rape. Discourage women who say they’ve been raped when they haven’t need to stop. Believing women when they say they’ve been raped. That’s the first part.But I argue that the solution for women who have unwanted children as products of rape is to agree as a nation to allocate funds for prenatal care, psychological care, foster care and other adoption resources to assist and protect these women and their children. Additionally, we need to agree not to judge these women for 1) being raped, 2) not wanting the children of their rapes, 3) being depressed or otherwise traumatised by their rapes.

Your presumption that I haven’t thought about this is misguided. It’s also insulting, but that’s not terribly important. There are better solutions to unwanted pregnancy than killing children. They’re just a lot, lot, harder.

lovebeyondmeasure:

youfoundmeonascreen:

Great. Why should your life be more valuable than the life in your uterus?

Is it because it’s an inconvenience?

Ok, dear person who commented on this, this is something that most “pro-lifers” will never admit.

THERE ARE SHADES OF GREY IN THIS WORLD.

[possible trigger warning for rape]

There are so many women for whom having an abortion is a heart-wrenching, life-altering decision that, yes, will haunt them forever. For some it’s because of medical issues- having that child could KILL THEM. Or maybe the child is NOT VIABLE and the pregnancy will not end in a new life, but only in more pain and sorrow than the abortion will cause.

Some people are RAPED. They cannot handle having their rapists child, because of any number of reasons, not the least of those being the PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA of carrying the child of the person who changed their lives forever and can not and should not have this type of hold over them.

For many women, their bodies are not able to carry a fetus to term. It’s not an inconvenience, it’s POSSIBLE DEATH.

So, so many people who are pro-choice are NOT PRO-ABORTION. I AM NOT PRO-ABORTION. I do not think that anyone should ever have to have an abortion. 

But I am not going to force my fellow human beings to do something that they do not want or are not able to safely do. IF IT IS NOT YOUR BODY, IT IS NOT YOUR CHOICE.

If you’ve never thought about it before, think about it now- you do not know their stories. You do not know their pain. You are in no position to judge anyone for choosing a medical procedure that is in all probably the only means they have for saving their life or allowing them to pursue their lives to the greatest extent possible. AND IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO DENY THEM THE MEANS TO DO SO SAFELY AND WITHOUT JUDGEMENT.

Being pro-choice does not mean being pro-abortion. It is about being pro-life. EVERYONE’S life. 

Their life may not be more important than the life in their uterus to you, but to them, it probably is. And it is their choice what to do with their life. And if they should choose to have an abortion, they are the one who will live with that decision, not you.

Ah, you mistake me.

Abortion should be a legal process. I do not think an abortion is the solution to an unwanted pregnancy.

I do not think a child should be allowed to physically injure its mother. If the pregnancy has a risk of death higher than average, the couple (or the mother) should have the choice to terminate the pregnancy or to try to stick it out. If the pregnancy could cause long-term disability or sterility, it find its termination morally justifiable.

In any event, I truly believe that the abortion is monumentally saddening for those involved, and a tragedy at least equal to miscarriage and stillbirth. If the child is not viable and dies inside its mother, I think there is less anguish inherent in letting the child die and giving birth to its corpse than to kill it—and give birth to its corpse  anyway.

Rape is woolly here. The rape is a tragedy, yes. The crime committed against that woman, her agency, perhaps against her will to live, is to me the most despicable act a human can commit. Yes, worse than taking life: refusing someone the right to control themselves, particularly when your sexual  satisfaction comes at the cost of her well-being and even a child gestating in her unwanted. There are days when I have been literally catatonic with rage that rape exists. So understand that.

But the child is guiltless. Genetically bound to the criminal, certainly, but the child did not commit that rape, the child has committed no other crime. I understand that a raped woman would not want to carry this child. This is where our culture needs a sea change. You say I am ‘in no position to judge anyone for having an abortion’. You’re right. I’m not. I do not think a woman is a terrible person for having an abortion. I think she is wrong to have done so, but that does not affect how I see her. I disapprove of the smoking of marijuana, too, but that doesn’t mean I fault people I meet who smoke marijuana. I think that issue of judgement is key. Our culture needs first to stop treating rape as a thing that happens and start truly discouraging rape. Discourage women who say they’ve been raped when they haven’t need to stop. Believing women when they say they’ve been raped. That’s the first part.
But I argue that the solution for women who have unwanted children as products of rape is to agree as a nation to allocate funds for prenatal care, psychological care, foster care and other adoption resources to assist and protect these women and their children. Additionally, we need to agree not to judge these women for 1) being raped, 2) not wanting the children of their rapes, 3) being depressed or otherwise traumatised by their rapes.

Your presumption that I haven’t thought about this is misguided. It’s also insulting, but that’s not terribly important. There are better solutions to unwanted pregnancy than killing children. They’re just a lot, lot, harder.

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